In this episode, Joe holds conversation with Dr. Michael Sapiro, Clinical Psychologist out of Boise, Idaho. They cover topics surrounding how meditation and mindfulness intersect with psychedelia as well as psychic ability, altered states and integration.

3 Key Points:

1. Meditation and psychedelics have a lot of overlap such as ego dissolution and unity.
2. Dr. Sapiro believes that meditation and mindfulness bring personal awakening in order to create collective transformation.
3. Both meditation and psychedelics are the most beneficial when they are integrated into our waking life and when we use our experiences to help others and our planet.

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